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Update 10/20: RequiresHate has posted an apology for the actions of her RH blog. However, she's also disclaimed responsibility for threats given out under the Winterfox brand. She claims that some, such as threatening an Asian woman with being raped by dogs, was the work of an impostor. I haven't been able to find any earlier mentions of an impostor, but large swathes of both the RH blog and Winterfox's backlog of comments remain deleted, so that's probably impossible to verify unless a witness wants to speak up. She's also apologized on A Bee Writes, her professional bog.

There's a theme of "I was an asshole but I've gotten better as the years have passed," which is something most of us have probably lived through ourselves -- however, Winterfox harassed a rape victim for six months as late as last year, so any decrease in assholery is going to be a very recent phenomenon. Intentionally or not, these apologies seem to further the narrative that the controversy is primarily about RequiresHate's book reviews rather than Winterfox's decade-long troll campaign. They also repeat assertions that all of Sriduangkaew's bad behavior was in the distant past, despite her harassment continuing into 2013 at least.

An open question to pro sci-fi: since Sriduangkaew has admitted she was wrong, can we stop arguing it's okay to threaten women of color with rape and assault if someone we like is doing it?

I had to stop following this wank for a couple of days to meet some RL deadlines. I wished someone had made a roundup post to summarize what's going on -- so I'm making one. If you're not interested in seeing some of your favorite sci-fi and fantasy authors make excuses for abusers, enable trolling, and belittle women of color who have received rape threats, stop reading now. It gets ugly.

This post is a work in progress and the wank is ongoing. Please feel free to comment with updates, corrections, and discussion. Anon comments are turned on, but I will delete with extreme prejudice at the first whiff of trolling.

Here's a timeline of events for this most recent blowup. 



Who is Benjanun Sriduangkaew?

Benjanun Sriduangkaew is an up-and-coming science fiction author from Thailand. First published in 2012, she has been nominated for a Campbell award for best new writer and her stories have been reviewed favorably in several publications. Her public persona is cheerful, friendly, and new to the genre. She blogs at A Bee Writes and on Twitter.


Requires Only That You Hate is Sriduangkaew's sci-fi/fantasy review blog which she runs under the pseudonym RequiresHate. ROTYH is famous for using violent rhetoric in reviews, including some that amount to murder fantasies, but has received some measure of critical acclaim among sci-fi and fantasy pros. (Sriduangkaew has recently deleted many of her most vitriolic reviews, following a long-established pattern of deleting posts that make her look bad.) Though RequiresHate reviewed many epic fantasy novels, Sriduangkaew claimed not to have read epic fantasy at all until last month. RequiresHate also has a Twitter feed. [Edit: that feed is now defunct.]

Winterfox is Sriduangkaew's long-standing troll pseudonym, which has been active since at least 2004. As Winterfox, she's famous for directing threats of rape and assault at various people, particularly women, especially queer women and women of color. For example, she threatened one Central Asian woman with rape by dogs for the crime of liking different videogames than Winterfox.

She shut down discussion in 50books_poc by directing personal attacks at authors such as Cindy Pon, harassing commenters who liked books she didn't, and making racist comments to various minority members of the comm -- one famous example involved accusing a Cambodian woman of crying "white woman's tears." 50books_poc was a community dedicated to reading and discussing the works of authors of color. Winterfox's personal hatred for certain authors of color and anyone who enjoyed reading them lead to the death of the comm.

In an unrelated incident, she drove one woman to attempt suicide. (Some of her fans then mocked the victim for the attempt.) Here is the account of a rape victim whom Winterfox harassed for at least six months in 2013. Any claims that Winterfox stopped harassing people years ago are lies, unless last year is now the distant past. Here is an account of a victim from 2012.

I can't sum up ten years of trolling in one post, but you can get a decent overview here. Known Winterfox aliases include acrackedmoon, pyrofennec, Valse de Lune, and Lesifoere. In brief, she's not one of the top ten misogynist assholes on the Internet, but that's not for lack of trying.

What the hell's happening?

It's been public knowledge for years that RequiresHate and Winterfox are one and the same. Meanwhile, Benjanun Sriduangkaew appeared to be just what she claimed: a sweet, friendly newcomer to sci-fi.

Last week, however, editor Nick Mamatas publicly outed Sriduangkaew as RequiresHate/Winterfox. His motivations for doing this are unclear, and it seems to have been done without Sriduangkaew's permission. As Mamatas has published several of her stories -- and therefore written several of her paychecks -- there're some serious ethical concerns about his actions here. (Full disclosure: Nick's banned from commenting in my space, but you can find him speaking in his own defense, or not, just about everywhere.)

EDIT: There's some debate over whether or not Nick Mamatas was in fact the person to out her. This comment was posted in early September, referring to rumors circulating among SFF pros that RequiresHate and Benjanun Sriduangkaew were the same person. I'm leaving the link to Mamatas's post up as the source for now until I can get some more clarity, because the Mamatas post is where most of the people who aren't SFF pros (including yours truly) heard it first.

This outing followed a post by author Tricia Sullivan in which she did not name names but discussed her recent experiences with a "toxic person" -- meaning Sriduangkaew. Sullivan reports that Sriduangkaew had befriended her and Sullivan had recommended Sriduangkaew to a couple of editors. When Sullivan later found out that Sriduangkaew is Winterfox, Sullivan privately contacted those editors and withdrew her recommendation, not wanting to be associated with a troll. Again, Tricia Sullivan did not name the person she was talking about and did not publicly out Sriduangkaew as Winterfox. Nick Mamatas did that. Anyone who tells you otherwise is selling something.

Following Mamatas's outting of Sriduangkaew, reviewer James Nicoll made a post in his LiveJournal, where the comments quickly exploded. (Note: Nicoll froze the post, but only after several days of single-handedly moderating a large, intense, and often nasty discussion across a national holiday.) This is where the discussion gets really ugly, because this is where Winterfox's victims start coming forward.

A sample: She said, posting as Winterfox not all that long ago, in a posting that has now been deleted in a semi-private venue, that I ought to be raped by dogs. (This is bad enough as it is, but I come from a country where dogs have traditionally been seen as distasteful or, for lack of a better word, unclean. She knew this; my being an American woman POC formerly from this country was explicitly part of why she targeted me. So it was meant as both a sexualized and culturalized threat and insult.)

Friends of Winterfox showed up to explain why rape threats aren't really threats, why women of color being threatened with rape is okay as long as it's another woman of color doing it, and that the correct response to feeling threatened is to toughen up.

Where discussion's taking place.

This is a list only. I can't vouch for or recommend any of these places in particular.

A lot of the current discussion among SFF pros is taking place on Twitter.
Discussion on
Discussion on Dear Author 
Discussion at Absolute Write

Discussion at OhNoTheyDidn't [locked to comm members]
Discussion on tumblr [one of possibly many]
Discussion of the apology at James Nicoll's journal

Author Tori Truslow postsabout the Sullivan/Sriduangkaew feud

Who's siding with whom.

I'm listing only SFF professionals who have made explicit statements one way or another. I'm not linking to random fans. Also, a lot of writers have sent messages of support to Sriduangkaew on Twitter, but many were told only that she is a young writer feeling some heat for controversial opinions. At least one author has retracted her support and expressed anger at being mislead, so please keep that in mind before judging anyone on the basis of a single statement. The assholes here are making plenty of statements to judge.

Defending abuse

Djibril Al-Ayad
K Tempest Bradford (EDIT: retracting my editorializing here until I have links to back it up)
Jaymee Goh (here's a cap of a deleted post where she asks victims to stay silent)
Kameron Hurley 
Keffy R. M. Kehrli (also here)
Alex Dally Macfarlane
Nick Mamatas

EDIT: One of the names I listed under "defending abuse" was not a pro writer, violating my own rule. I've removed the name and I apologize for the error.

Defending the victims:

Polenth Blake
Kate Elliot
Caitlin Kiernan
Rochita Loenen-Ruiz
Tricia Sullivan


Charles Stross

Rumors, Distortions, and Lies (with the Occassional Truth)

I'm going to try to sort out the rumors that are flying around.

Liz Williams or Tricia Sullivan publicly outed Benjanun Sriduangkaew as RequiresHate/Winterfox.
Status: FALSE
Nick Mamatas did the outing.

"Benjanun Sriduangkaew" is a pseudonym.
The only evidence for this so far is a comment from Nick Mamatas that he doubts Sriduangkaew is the author's real name, combined with a general sentiment that Winterfox wouldn't know the truth if it bit her. Anything else is simply speculation, and to be honest some of it sounds pretty racist on the basis of her having a "funny name" so let's not, okay?

Authors Liz Williams and Tricia Sullivan have conducted a poison pen campaign to ruin Sriduangkaew's career.
Status: SORT OF
Sullivan says she's contacted editors to withdraw her recommendation of Sridaengkeuw and has privately warned friends about Sridaengkeuw's habits. Whether this constitutes smearing a new writer or simply giving fair warning about a troll depends a lot on what you think about people being held responsible for their actions.

Sriduangkaew has contacted publishers and reviewers (falsely) accusing numerous authors of racist harassment and asking that those writers be blackballed -- often writers with whom she was publicly friendly.
Tricia Sullivan's post says this, and it fits Winterfox's pattern, but there's as yet no proof. Nick Mamatas has also made statements which suggest this is true, but it's unclear if he's working from firsthand information himself.

No one speaking out against Sriduangkaew has spoken out against white male harassers in the past.
Status: FALSE.
Complete pile of horseshit. Here are the results of five seconds worth of googling by a kind anon.

Everyone speaking out against Sriduangkaew is an author angry that their books were reviewed poorly on Requires Only That You Hate.
Status: FALSE
Winterfox has been trolling for ten years. The majority of her victims are not and have never been published authors. Her ROTYH reviews, while often pretty nasty in and of themselves, are not the issue. Using violent sexual threats to frighten women into silence for a decade straight is the issue.

Winterfox was only actively trolling for a year or two, and she was 19 at the time and too young to know better. Status: AGAINST THE LAWS OF PHYSICS Unless she was 19 years old for 10 years, this is a lie.

All the anonymous comments on James Nicoll's post were from one or two IP addresses.
Status: FALSE
James Nicoll confirms that this is false. He also questions how whoever started this rumor purported to know, since only Nicoll himself can see the IP addresses on his journal.

CLAIM Tricia Sullivan wrote a super racist book.
If every single person Sriduangkaew has abused was a sockpuppet of Tricia Sullivan, this would be relevant. Also if Sriduangkaew has developed the power of time travel, allowing her to wreak vengeance in 2004 for a book that was written in 2012. Listen, for all I know, Sullivan's the Grand High Elf of her local KKK. That has absolutely nothing to do with Sriduangkaew's abuse of other people.

Polenth Blake's post about abuse didn't specifically mention that it's wrong to abuse white people, therefore Blake thinks it's okay to abuse white people.
Look, fellow white people. It's okay not to talk about us in every single post! Really it is! It doesn't mean someone's out to get us if we're not the topic of the conversation.

Sriduangkaew has a creepy stalker following her around.
Status: TRUE
There's a person by the name of Roguey a.k.a. creepalicious popping up here and there. I don't want to link them just in case they get off on the attention, but the long and short of it is this person seems to have met Winterfox on RPGcodex and gone from there. There's no indication this is someone involved in the current wank under another name.

Everyone speaking out against Sriduangkaew is white.
Status: FALSE
Have you read a single damned thing I've linked?

An anon at has offered to be a sympathetic ear to victims who want to come forward, anonymously or not. I've spoken with this person privately and can confirm that this person is absolutely not Sriduangkaew nor a friend of Sriduangkaew. I'm not otherwise involved and will not see any messages sent there.

The long and short of it is that there are two sides in this wank. One side, Sriduangkaew's side, thinks it's cool to threaten women of color with being raped by dogs. The other side thinks that's bullshit. Let me make it more explicit: Sriduangkaew is a racist, misogynistic bully, and those people defending her are of necessity defending racism and misogyny.

Think about that for a minute.

Sriduangkaew isn't the worst asshole in sci-fi. That means that sci-fi has a problem with assholes, not that it's okay to threaten women with rape and murder. When your best defense is "but little Timmy did it first" you're thinking on the level of a particularly spiteful five year old. When you want abuse victims to stay silent because speaking up might hurt their abuser's career you're contributing to abuse.

Many of the people currently defending Sriduangkaew and trying to silence her victims are people who spoke out loudly against James Frenkel and Rene Walling, two recent abusers whom the sci-fi community harbored and enabled for years before finally rejecting. Just goes to show that it's all in who you know -- exactly the same things that were said in defense of Frenkel, Walling, and every other abuser in history are getting said now, by people who know better. Sriduangkaew's friends are trying to spin this story to make her the victim and make the victims afraid. To hell with that.

Crossposted at Dreamwidth.

Fresh new batch of links/discussions

Date: 2014-11-06 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

Laura J. Mixon, Elizabeth Bear, Deirdre Moen, Athena Andreadis, Rochita Loenen-Ruiz, Nalo Hopkinson: Coming out against WF/RH/BS's abuse.

Still defending WF/RH/BS or playing innocent: Cat Valente, Nick Mamatas, K. Tempest Bradford.

Ambivalent: Jim Hines.

Re: Fresh new batch of links/discussions

Date: 2014-11-06 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Against abuse: Rachel Manija Brown.

Re: Fresh new batch of links/discussions

Date: 2014-11-06 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Against abuse: Tobias Buckell:

Steve Brust, Ursula Vernon, Yoon Ha Lee, Janis Ian, and Pat Cadigan have comments supporting the victims at Laura Mixon's post.

Re: Fresh new batch of links/discussions

Date: 2014-11-06 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Kameron Hurley has retweeted Elizabeth Bear's post.

However, she still seems to be taking the approach that all this is a 'distraction' from the business of writing.

Re: Fresh new batch of links/discussions

Date: 2014-11-07 02:41 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
On what planet is wishing a roundup post had better links/citations "defending abuse?"

There's something deeply fucked when critiquing the methodology of a post gets lumped in with defending the subject of the post. The idea that if you're against winterfox you have to be uncritically in favor of everything that's against her isn't going to help anyone, but sadly that's what's coming across in these posts that try to divide the world up into "THE GOOD PEOPLE WHO LIKE GOOD THINGS" and "THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TOTALLY ARGUING FOR MISOGYNY AND ABUSE." So many people seem to be operating under the assumption that once a roundup post is made then everybody on the entire internet automatically knows what's going on.

Tempest made a Facebook post that's definitely anti-winterfox, but because she won't kiss the ass of everyone who makes an anti post, she's pro? Fuck that noise. You could be totally against everything RequiresHate/winterfox stands for and does and still think we should be doing better.

Re: Fresh new batch of links/discussions

Date: 2014-11-07 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This is beyond "not giving her the benefit of the doubt." It's outright skewing what she says. The post you're linking to here isn't saying that linking to proof is creepy. It's criticizing specific behavior and talking about finding a balance between information not being available and gleeful collection of (often irrelevant/misrepresented) links as a kind of game.

A lot of the tweets and things being linked to supposed as proof that people are "pro-abuse supporters" fall into that category, by the way. Is this supposed to be about stopping abuse and supporting victims? Because I don't see how setting yourself and Laura J. Mixon up as being above and beyond reproach furthers either of those goals. But that's the lesson where anyone who asks a question or makes a comment about how the round up posts are being run gets called an abuse supporter.

If someone says they find things iffy about LJM's number break down but also say they want to see a more victim-centered and victim-supporting approach, is that "pro abuse?" If someone questions whether or not any of the white people involved have ulterior motive, does that automatically make them "pro abuse?" Even if they're acknowledging the people of color?

This "with us or against us" garbage is great if your goal is to just set the stage for the next RequiresHate to come in and find an easily exploitable dynamic for sheltering their own abuse, but if that's not the goal, there are better ways to conduct ourselves.

Re: Fresh new batch of links/discussions

Date: 2014-11-08 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

Tempest's tweets look to me like she's floundering, trying to think of something to say, anything, that will draw attention away from the vileness of RS/BS and focus it on someone else. I have a feeling it's not going to work.

Re: Fresh new batch of links/discussions

Date: 2014-11-09 12:59 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My, RH's little minions are doing everything they can to obscure their complicity, aren't they?

Re: Fresh new batch of links/discussions

Date: 2014-11-10 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Attack on Tricia Sullivan by "Tori" for "doxxing ... a Thai author who was upset by her book"

Tagged "requires hate"
See also

Re: Fresh new batch of links/discussions

Date: 2014-11-10 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
DA - trillingwire is, of course, Tori Truslow, partner of Alex Dally MacFarlane, mentioned briefly in Rochita Loenen-Ruiz's post ( who doesn't bother to mention her own direct connection during her callout of "rank, hypocritical bullshit."


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